Nov. 30, 2006
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• The Series: #5/#5 Notre Dame (10-3-1/5-2-1) vs. #14/#14 Alaska (6-2-4/4-1-3)
• Date/Site/Time: Sat.-Sun., Dec. 2-3 • 7:05/7:05 p.m. • Joyce Center (2,713)
• Broadcast Information: Radio: Notre Dame hockey can be heard live on ESPN Radio 1490 South Bend’s SportsCenter. Mike Lockert, “the voice of Irish hockey” will bring you all the play-by-play action.
• Internet: Irish hockey can be heard on the internet at the Notre Dame website – www.und.com. All Notre Dame home games and all CCHA games are available via gametracker. Video Streaming: Both games of the Alaska series will be available via Fighting Irish All-Access on the Notre Dame website at und.com. To view the game, the viewer will need to be using Internet Explorer 6 with Windows Media Player 9 or higher.
A BATTLE FOR CCHA SUPREMACY: The Notre Dame Fighting Irish welcome some familiar foes back to the Joyce Center this weekend in a rare Saturday-Sunday series (Dec. 2-3) at the Joyce Center. The Alaska Nanooks return for a pair of 7:05 p.m. games with one of the top spots in the CCHA standings at stake. Notre Dame and Alaska met on consecutive weekends to end the 2005-06 regular season at the Joyce Center with the Nanooks winning three of the four meetings. The one win the Irish did get clinched a home-ice playoff spot in the first round of the CCHA playoffs against Alaska. The Nanooks won the season finale with that win keeping them in South Bend to face the Irish in the first round the following weekend. The Nanooks prevailed, defeating Notre Dame 3-1 and 1-0 to advance to the second round of the tournament. This season the two teams are ranked nationally and are tied for third in the league standings. The Irish, 10-3-1 overall and 5-2-1 in the CCHA are ranked fifth in both the USA Today/American Hockey Magazine poll and the USCHO.com/CSTV poll. Alaska comes into the week ranked 14th in both polls and is 6-2-4 on the year and 4-1-3 in CCHA play. Both teams have 11 points in the league standings and are three points behind first-place Michigan and Miami. Michigan (9) has played one more game while Miami (10) has two more games than Notre Dame or Alaska. Video for both games of this series will be streamed live on und.com, the Notre Dame website, free of charge. Viewers will need to have a PC based computer with Internet Explorer 6 and Windows Media Player 9 or higher.
IRISH VERSUS NANOOKS: Notre Dame and Alaska have met 39 times in the all-time series with the Nanooks holding a 20-16-3 edge. At the Joyce Center, Notre Dame has a slim 9-8-1 advantage while in Fairbanks, Alaska, the Nanooks are 12-6-2 versus the Irish. Alaska currently enjoys a three-game winning streak against the Irish with all three wins coming at the Joyce Center and has four wins in the last five contests going back to 2004-05. During the 2006-07 season, the two teams are in the same rivalry cluster along with Bowling Green and Nebraska-Omaha. The two teams will meet in Fairbanks on Feb. 16-17.
ROOKIE OF THE WEEK: Freshman center Kevin Deeth (Gig Harbor, Wash.) has been named the CCHA rookie of the week for the second time this season. Last weekend at Nebraska-Omaha, Deeth scored two goals and added an assist in the weekend series. In Friday’s 4-2 win, Deeth scored once and set up another and was selected the Perani Cup first star of the game. He added a power-play goal that tied the game at 2-2 in Saturday’s 3-2 loss and was the game’s third star. For the year, Deeth has seven goals and seven assists for 14 points to rank third in scoring. His four power-play goals are tops on the Notre Dame list.
RANKINGS UPDATE: For the sixth consecutive week, the Irish are in the national rankings in both polls. They enter the weekend against Alaska ranked fifth in both the USA Today/American Hockey Magazine poll and the USCHO.com/CSTV polls. Prior to this season, the last time the Irish were ranked was the 2003-04 campaign when they finished the year ranked 12th. Notre Dame was ranked for six weeks that season, including the final four weeks of the year. Week-by-week with the Irish this season:
2006-07 Irish National Rankings
Date USA TODAY USCHO.com10/02 ---- ----10/09 ---- ----10/16 ---- RV10/23 11th 12th10/30 10th 10th11/6 9th 9th11/13 6th 5th11/20 5th 4th11/27 5th 5th
Notre Dame hasn’t been ranked often in their 39-year hockey history. During the 1972-73 season, the Irish finished ranked fourth overall in the WMPL radio poll and were ranked for eight weeks during the year. That season, Notre Dame lost to Wisconsin in the WCHA finals. The following year (1973-74), the Irish opened the season ranked second (WMPL) and stayed as high as No. 2 through the first four weeks of the year before dropping out. In 1976-77, the Irish were ranked in the final seven weeks of the season, reaching as high as No. 2 on Jan. 31, finishing the year ranked third in the WMPL radio poll. They lost to Minnesota in the WCHA playoffs in a total-goal series. Notre Dame would not be ranked again until October 26 of the 1981-82 season when they reached 10th but weren’t ranked again. In 1998-99, the Irish spent 16 consecutive weeks (Oct. 19-Feb. 16) in both the USA Today and USHCHO.com polls, before falling out at the end of the year. In 2002-03, the Irish were ranked for one week and in 2003-04, they were ranked six weeks in total, including the final four weeks in a row to finish 12th in the USA Today Poll and 13th in the USCHO.com final polls.
NEBRASKA RECAP: The Irish spent the Thanksgiving holiday in Omaha, Neb., where they split a weekend series with the Mavericks. Notre Dame took a 4-2 decision on Nov. 24 and then dropped a 3-2 game on Saturday, Nov. 25. In Saturday’s series finale, Notre Dame got a first-period short-handed goal from Noah Babin (Sr., Palm Beach Gardens, Fla.) and a third-period power-play goal from Kevin Deeth to offset Maverick goals by Brian Marshall and Mark Bernier. In the final 4:03 of the game, the Irish were called for a pair of holding penalties and Nebraska-Omaha capitalized on the five-on-three power play with a goal by Juha Uotila at 17:44 for the game-winning tally. Notre Dame outshot the Mavericks, 27-22 in the game. David Brown (Sr., Stoney Brook, Ont.) made 18 saves in the loss while Jeremie Dupont had 25 for UNO. On Friday night, Notre Dame scored twice in the first period and once in the second to build a 3-0 lead on the way to a 4-2 win. Erik Condra (So., Livonia, Mich.) and Josh Sciba (Sr., Westland, Mich.) got goals at 1:05 and 18:18 of the first period for a 2-0 lead. Freshman Dan Kissel (Crestwood, Ill.) picked up the eventual game winner at 3:15 of the second and the Irish took a 3-0 lead into the final stanza. The Mavericks got goals from Brandon Scero (2:09) and Phil Angell (5:23) to cut the lead to 3-2, but Deeth scored at 14:31 for the 4-2 final. Brown finished with 18 saves in the game while Eric Aarnio had 16 for the Mavericks as both teams traded 20 shots on the night.
FIRST THINGS FIRST: When Nebraska-Omaha scored in the first period of the Nov. 25th game against the Irish, it marked just the second time this season that Notre Dame surrendered a goal in the first period. For the year, the Irish have given up just two first-period goals and are out scoring the opposition by a 15-2 margin in the opening period this season.
HOME SWEET HOME: Through the first 14 games of the season, Notre Dame has played just four of them at home and owns a 4-0-0 mark at the Joyce Center. Through the first seven weekends of the season, the Irish have been home for both games just once this year (Bowling Green, 11/10-11). For the other two home games, the Irish played home-and-home series with Minnesota State (10/12 and 14) and Michigan State (11/17-18).
MARCH OF THE PENGUINS: This weekend’s series with Alaska has an interesting matchup between the team’s two goaltenders. Notre Dame senior netminder David Brown is 9-3-1 on the year and leads the CCHA and is second in the nation with a 1.45 goals-against average. His .941 save percentage is second in the conference and fourth in the nation. Alaska’s sophomore goaltender, Chad Johnson, ranks third in the CCHA and ninth in the nation with a 1.96 goals-against average and is fourth in the conference and 12th overall with a .923 save percentage. Opposing goaltenders this weekend, the duo could be teammates in the future. Both were drafted by the Pittsburgh Penguins. Brown is an eighth-round pick in the 2004 draft and Johnson was selected in the fifth round of the 2006 draft.
KID STUFF: Notre Dame’s eight-man freshman class has made major contributions early in the season. Six of the eight have seen action this season and in the first 14 games, they have combined for 18 goals and 24 assists for 42 points, seven power-play goals, two short-handed tallies, five game-winning goals and are a combined +32. Leading the way is center Kevin Deeth (7g, 7a) with 14 points. He leads the Irish with four power-play goals and is tied for the CCHA lead in freshman scoring. Ryan Thang (6g, 7a) follows with 13 points. Three of his six goals have been game winners. Defenseman Kyle Lawson (New Hudson, Mich.) has six assists on the year and leads the team with a +9. Left wing Dan Kissel (Crestwood, Ill.) has four goals and an assist for five points in seven games. Among his goals are a power-play tally, a short-handed goal and two game winners. games. On defense, Brett Blatchford (Temperance, Mich.) has two helpers in six games. Christian Minella (Aurora, Colo.) scored his first goal in his first game against Bowling Green and has two points with a goal and an assist. Thang and Kissel have accounted for five of Notre Dame’s 10 game-winning goals this season.
WHAT BROWN DOES FOR THE IRISH: Senior goaltender David Brown has started 13 of Notre Dame’s 14 games this season and has a 9-3-1 record with a 1.45 goals-against average and a .941 save percentage. His goals against leads the CCHA and is second in the nation. His save percentage is second in the conference and fourth in the country. Brown and the Irish blueliners have teamed up to form the nation’s top defensive team, giving up just 19 goals in 14 games for a 1.36 goals-against average. Brown has twice been named CCHA goaltender of the week this season (Oct. 23 and Nov. 6) and was also the all-tournament goaltender at the Lightning College Hockey Classic. This season, Brown has taken over Notre Dame’s all-time top spot for career goals-against average (2.55), save percentage (.913) and shutouts (8).
SCORING DEFENSE: Noah Babin’s first period short-handed goal on Nov. 25 at Nebraska-Omaha was just the second goal this season scored by a Notre Dame defenseman. Brock Sheahan (Jr. Lethbridge, Alb.) collected the first one on Nov. 17 against Michigan State. The Irish defense now has two goals and 25 assists on the season. Wes O’Neill (Sr., Essex, Ont.) leads the group with seven assists. Noah Babin (Sr., Palm Beach Gardens, Fla.), with a goal and five assists for six points, and Kyle Lawson (Fr., New Hudson, Mich.) with six assists follow. Sheahan has a goal and two assists while Dan VeNard (Jr., Vernon Hills, Ill.) has three assists and Brett Blatchford (Fr., Temperance, Mich.) has two helpers.
PLAYING WITH THE LEAD: Through the first 14 games of the season, Notre Dame has played a total of 849:45 minutes. In those 14 games, the Irish have trailed for just 47:56 minutes (or 5.6% of the time) with a bulk of that time (36:21) coming in the 2-0 loss to Michigan State on Nov. 18. In the 14 games, the Irish have been in the lead or tied for 94.4% of the time or 801:39 minutes. That breaks down to tied for 323:34 minutes (38.1%) and leading 478:15 (56.3%).
NOTRE DAME'S RECORD WHEN....
When Notre Dame scores first ........................ 9-2-1When opponents score first .......................... 1-1-0When Notre Dame leads after one period .............. 8-1-0When Notre Dame trails after one period ............. 0-0-0When score is tied after one period ................. 2-2-1When Notre Dame leads after two periods ............. 9-0-0When Notre Dame trails after two periods ............ 0-2-0When score is tied after two periods ................ 1-1-1When Notre Dame outshoots opponent .................. 5-3-1When opponent outshoots Notre Dame .................. 4-0-0When shots are even ................................. 1-0-0In Game 1 of CCHA weekend series .................... 4-0-0In Game 2 of CCHA weekend series .................... 1-3-1In one-goal games ................................... 0-2-0In two-goal games ................................... 3-1-0Notre Dame at home .................................. 4-0-0Notre Dame on the road .............................. 4-3-1Notre Dame on neutral ice ........................... 2-0-0Notre Dame in overtime .............................. 0-1-1Notre Dame in October ............................... 5-1-0Notre Dame in November .............................. 5-2-1Notre Dame in December .............................. 0-0-0Notre Dame in January ............................... 0-0-0Notre Dame in February .............................. 0-0-0Notre Dame in March ................................. 0-0-0
RED-HOT IRISH: Notre Dame’s 10-3-1 start this season is the best for the Irish since starting the 1987-88 season with a 10-2-2 record. After 14 games just one year ago, Notre Dame was 4-9-1. The Irish reached the 10-win plateau in their 13th game this season. That’s the quickest the Irish reached 10 wins since 1989-90 when they started the year with 10 wins in the first 12 games. Last season, the Irish won their 10th game on Feb. 10 – the 29th game of the year.
LAST BLANKING: Prior to the 2-0 shutout by Michigan State, the last time Notre Dame was shutout in a game came on March 4, 2006 when Alaska downed the Irish, 1-0, in the second game of the first round of the CCHA playoffs. The Irish have recorded three shutouts this season – two by David Brown and one by Jordan Pearce (So., Anchorage, Alaska).
POWER OUTAGE: The Irish scored at least one power-play goal in 11 consecutive games to open the 2006-07 season, going 14-for-64 (21.9%) in that span. Since then, over the last three games, the Irish are just 1-for-14 (7.1%) on the power play. Overall, Notre Dame is 15-for-78 for a 19.2% success rate.
BEST IN THE NATION: Notre Dame comes into this weekend’s games with Alaska ranked tops in the nation in two categories. The Irish are tops in scoring defense (1.36) and first in penalty killing (91.9%). The Irish have given up just 19 goals overall on the year and just six power-play goals.
IRISH ADD SEVEN: Notre Dame head coach Jeff Jackson has announced that seven players have signed national letters-of-intent to attend Notre Dame beginning in the fall of 2007. The group of seven is made up of one goaltender, two defensemen and four forwards. The goaltender is Brad Phillips (Farmington Hills, Mich.), who is currently a member of the USA Under-18 team as are the two defensemen, Ian Cole (Ann Arbor, Mich.) and Teddy Ruth (Naperville, Ill.). All four forwards are currently playing in the USHL. Robin Bergman (Stockholm, Sweden) is a member of the Cedar Rapids RoughRiders while Billy Maday (Burr Ridge, Ill.) plays for the Waterloo Black Hawks. Calle Ridderwall (Stockholm, Sweden) is with the Tri-City Storm and Ben Ryan (Brighton, Mich.) is in his second year with the Des Moines Buccaneers. Bergman and Ridderwall are the first two Swedish players to play at Notre Dame. Ridderwall and Maday were midget teammates last season with the Chicago Chill. All seven of Notre Dame’s recruits for the 2007-08 season have been listed in the National Hockey League’s Central Scouting Preliminary Rankings. Central Scouting ranks players in two categories – A as “must see” as a potential top three round selection in the 2007 Entry Draft and B – as a “player to note” as a potential late round selection in the 2007 Entry Draft. Phillips, Ruth and Ryan were A selections while Bergman, Cole, Maday and Ridderwall were B selections.
USHL GP G A PTS PIMRidderwall - Tri-Cities 17 11 12 23 20Ryan - Des Moines 17 5 14 19 31Bergman - Cedar Rapids 12 8 6 14 6Maday - Waterloo 15 4 5 9 12
USA UNDER-18 GP G A PTS PIMIan Cole 16 2 5 7 26Teddy Ruth 16 5 8 13 46Brad Phillips 6-2-1; 2.88; .896 sv%
Ridderwall is currently second in the USHL scoring race and Ryan is tied for 12th. USA stats are through 11/1/06).
YOUNG GUN: Freshman center Kevin Deeth (Gig Harbor, Wash.) quietly goes about his business for the Irish at 5-7, 161 pounds, but he has a way of making his presence felt. Through the first 14 games of the season, Deeth is third on the team in scoring with 14 points on seven goals and seven assists. He is second in goals and leads the team with four power-play goals. He is tied for the CCHA lead among freshman scorers.
YOUNG GUN, PART II: Joining Deeth as a freshman point producer is his linemate, freshman Ryan Thang (Edina, Minn.). Thang is fourth on the team in scoring with six goals and seven assists for 13 points and he ranks fourth in scoring among CCHA freshmen. His three game-winning goals tie him for first in the CCHA. Thang and Deeth have played on a line with sophomore Erik Condra and have been the top-scoring unit for the Irish all season. Combined, they have 18 goals and 25 assists for 43 points with seven power-play goals, one short-handed tally and four game winners.
FIRST TIMER: Freshman right wing Christiaan Minella (Aurora, Colo.) had to wait until the 10th game of the season to see his first collegiate hockey action but wasted little time making the most of it. Minella scored his first collegiate goal on his first shot at 9:04 of the first period to give the Irish a 2-0 lead. The last Notre Dame player to score on his first career shot was Tim Wallace `06 who did it on Oct. 11, 2002 at Minnesota-Duluth. The hard-hitting right wing added his first career assist in the 4-1 win over Michigan State.
VAN GUILDER MARKS THE SPOT: Junior center Mark Van Guilder has already equaled his goal output from a year ago as he has lit the lamp eight times in the first 14 games of 2006-07. Last year, Van Guilder had eight goals in 36 games for the Irish. In the first 14 games of the year, the Roseville, Minn., native has five multiple-point games this season with three games with three points and two with two points. Van Guilder is second on the team in scoring with eight goals and seven assists for 15 points on the year. He has now played in 88 consecutive games at Notre Dame.
JUST JOSHING: Josh Sciba saw his career-best six-game point streak (2g, 5a) snapped in the 2-0 loss at Michigan State. For the season, Sciba is fifth on the team with four goals and eight assists for 12 points. Eight of his points (3g, 5a) have come on the power play. For his career, Sciba now has 34 career goals with 18 of them coming with the man advantage.
POWER-PLAY PRODUCER: Wes O’Neill (Jr., Essex, Ont.) is Notre Dame’s top scoring defensemen with seven points this season on seven assists. He has led Irish defensemen in scoring in each of the last three seasons. So far this season, four of his seven assists have come on the power play. For his career, O’Neill has scored 10 goals and 28 assists on the power play. In 126 all-time games, the veteran defenseman has 14 goals and 50 assists for 64 career points.
CONDRA CAPERS: Sophomore left wing Erik Condra has picked up where he left off in the scoring department as a freshman. Condra, Notre Dame’s rookie of the year and a CCHA all-rookie team selection, led the Irish with six goals and 28 assists for 34 points. In 14 games this year, he has five goals and 11 assists for 16 points to tie for the team lead in scoring. In 50 career games, Condra has 11 goals and 39 assists for 50 points.
GOAL-SCORING MACHINE: Part of the reason for Notre Dame’s fast 10-3-1 start this season has been the Irish ability to put the puck in the net. Through the first 14 games, Notre Dame has outscored the opposition by a 50-19 margin (3.57 to 1.36 per game). The Irish are ranked 12th in the nation in goals-per-game and tops in goals-against. The +2.21 margin of victory is third in the nation. Last year, in 36 games, Notre Dame scored just 89 goals (2.47 per game).
POOLEY POWER: Notre Dame associate head coach Paul Pooley had his number as a player at Ohio State retired in a ceremony held on Sat., Nov. 4 when Notre Dame played at Ohio State. A 1984 graduate of Ohio State, Pooley is still the Buckeyes all-time leading scorer with 114 goals and 156 assists for 270 points. A member of the CCHA’s all-Decade Team for the 1980s, Pooley was the CCHA player of the year in 1984 and a first team All-American as he led the nation in scoring with 32 gosl and 64 assists for 96 points in 41 games.A three-time CCHA all-academic selection, Pooley was an Academic All-American in his senior year. He began his coaching career at Ohio State as an assistant before joining Jeff Jackson’s staff at Lake Superior in 1992. During his three seasons in Sault Ste. Marie, Mich., the Lakers went to the NCAA Tournament three times, winning the title in 1992 and 1994. Pooley became the head coach at Providence College in 1994 and was the there for 11 seasons where his teams compiled a 185-187-40 record, won one Hockey East title (1995-96) and advanced to the NCAA tournament twice (1996 and 2001). He was selected to the OSU Hall of Fame in 1994. He is the first Ohio State hockey player to have his number retired. TOURNEY HONORS: Three members of the Irish hockey team were selected to the Lightning College Hockey Classic all-tournament team: goaltender David Brown, defenseman Brock Sheahan (Jr., Lethbridge, Alb.) and center Christian Hanson. Hanson was named the tournament’s most valuable player as he scored a goal in each game, including the game winner in the championship game versus Air Force.
TWO-GOAL GAMES OR MORE: Scoring is definitely contagious. Through 11 games this season, the Irish have seen players score two or more goals in a game eight times. Last season, Notre Dame had a total of seven multiple-goal games, including two hat tricks. Jason Paige did the trick on Friday night when he scored twice in the 4-1 win over Michigan State. Mark Van Guilder and Dan Kissel have had hat tricks against Boston College and Providence, respectively. Freshman Ryan Thang scored twice against Boston College and Bowling Green. Sophomore left wing Garrett Regan (Hastings, Minn.) scored twice, including the game winner in the 6-1 win win on Oct. 12. Junior center Mark Van Guilder scored twice in the same game while recording a three-point game. On Oct. 14, it was freshman Kevin Deeth’s turn as he collected a short-handed goal and a power-play tally in the 3-2 overtime loss.
PREMIER PUCKSTOPPER: Senior goaltender David Brown is off to a fast start in 2006-07. He is 9-3-1 on the year with a stingy 1.45 goals-against average and a .941 save percentage. Of the 19 goals he has given up, 12 have come at even strength. Six have come via the power play and one was short-handed. Brown stopped 36-of-37 shots he faced in the season-opening win versus Minnesota State. That marked the 13th time in Brown’s career that he has made 35 or more saves in a game. Notre Dame is 6-6-1 in those games.
CAPTAINS: Senior right wing T.J. Jindra (Faribault, Minn.) will serve as Notre Dame’s captain for the second consecutive season. Jindra becomes the first Irish player to serve as captain twice since Evan Nielsen `03 held the responsibility from 2001-03. There have been 14 players to serve as two-time captains with the Irish. Joining Jindra as alternate captains in `06-’07, are senior center Jason Paige (Saginaw, Mich.) and senior defensemen Wes O’Neill (Essex, Ont.) and Tom Sawatske (Duluth, Minn.). Paige has served as an alternate captain since his sophomore year. O’Neill and Sawatske will be alternate captains for the first time at Notre Dame.
FAMILY MATTERS: Two members of the Notre Dame hockey team – forwards Erik Condra (Livonia, Mich.) and Garrett Regan (Hastings, Minn.) – have family ties to the Irish hockey program. Condra’s uncle is All-American forward Kirt Bjork (`83) who played at Notre Dame from 1979-83. He scored 76 goals with 85 assists for 161 career points in 141 career games. He took All-America honors in 1983 when he had 29 goals and 34 assists for 63 points. Regan’s uncle – Sean Regan – was a defenseman for the Irish from1981-83 before finishing his career at the University of Minnesota.
NHL DRAFTEES: The Irish have four players on the 2006-07 roster who have been selected in the National Hockey League’s Entry Draft. Last June, sophomore right wing Erik Condra (Livonia, Mich.) was selected in the seventh round, 211th overall by the Ottawa Senators. He is joined by freshman defenseman Kyle Lawson (New Hudson, Mich.) who was selected in the 2005 NHL Draft by the Carolina Hurricanes in the seventh round, 198th overall. Condra and Lawson are joined by senior defenseman Wes O’Neill (Essex, Ont.) who was chosen in the fourth round of the 2004 Entry Draft, 115th overall by the New York Islanders. Also selected in 2004 was senior goaltender David Brown (Stony Creek, Ont.) who went in the eighth round, 228th overall to the Pittsburgh Penguins.
PLAYING IN THE NHL: At times during the 2005-06 season, Notre Dame had five former players in the NHL at the same time. The five were: Ben Simon `00 (Columbus), Rob Globke `04 (Florida), Brett Lebda `04 (Detroit), Mark Eaton (Nashville) and Yan Stastny (Edmonton-Boston). Only one other time, have the Irish had five players in the NHL in one season. That came during the 1982-83 campaign when the Irish had five players see time, in the NHL. That group included: Jim Brown `82 (three games with Los Angeles), Jack Brownschidle `77 (72 games with St. Louis), Jeff Brownschidle `81 (four games with Hartford), Don Jackson `78 (71 games with Edmonton) and Dave Poulin `82 (two games with Philadelphia). As of Nov. 28, Eaton (Pittsburgh), Lebda (Detroit) and Globke (Florida) are skating with their NHL teams. Eaton is out for 10-12 weeks with a dislocated wrist.